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Cwm-hirblyg to Glyn Llydan°

2890.0 m · gain 95.9 m · overall 3.3% · Glyn Llydan · Sir Gaerfyrddin - Carmarthenshire

Shape: sustained — 37% of the climbing sits in a quarter of the distance; longest continuous stretch at 10%+ is 80 m.

An unlisted find of this survey, on no list we know of. It was discovered by analysing LiDAR terrain data and cross-checked against the OS road network, surface models and map tags — but despite all that, a discovery can still be an artifact of the terrain model or the map. Treat it as a well-evidenced hypothesis until someone has ridden it. If that someone is you, tell us what you found — photographs, corrections and local knowledge all welcome; the map links below let you scout it first.

° The name is provisional: this climb appears on no list we know of, so it was named from nearby map places. There is no evidence of local usage — (auto-named from gazetteer (hypothesis, unreviewed); discovered as 'Discovered lane (51.8611, -3.8938)'). Corrections welcome.

≈ Overhead cover (tree canopy or structures) spans 24% of this route — detected by comparing the surface model (DSM, treetops and rooftops) against the terrain model (DTM, bare ground). Under cover the bare-ground model is built from fewer laser returns, so metre-scale readings can wobble; maxima whose window sits in a covered zone are marked ≈ below — less certain, not wrong. Longer windows average over more clean ground and are steadier.

Gradient ladder what do windows mean?

WindowMaximumLocated at
2 m (diagnostic)52.9%1298–1300 munder overhead cover terrain reads 62.1% at 52–54 m across a structure — excluded
3 m (diagnostic)43.6%1297–1300 munder overhead cover terrain reads 53.4% at 52–55 m across a structure — excluded
5 m40.0%1237–1242 munder overhead cover terrain reads 40.9% at 52–57 m across a structure — excluded
10 m33.6%1233–1243 m
20 m27.9%1224–1244 munder overhead cover
25 m26.7%1218–1243 munder overhead cover
50 m23.6%1227–1277 munder overhead cover
100 m16.2%1208–1308 munder overhead cover terrain reads 19.9% at 1218–1318 m across a structure — excluded

may_start_earlierdescends_at_end Extent detection suggests reviewing where this climb starts/ends.

Map

Check this route yourself: Google Maps route via their router · Street View at the base where coverage exists · geojson.io our exact measured line · OpenTopoMap

  © OpenStreetMap contributors · topo tiles © OpenTopoMap (CC-BY-SA) · vector tiles OpenFreeMap

Cwm-hirblyg to Glyn Llydan LiDAR hillshade map with contours

Profile

Cwm-hirblyg to Glyn Llydan elevation profile Cwm-hirblyg to Glyn Llydan rolling gradient profile

Provenance

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  "sample_interval_m": 1.0,
  "interpolation": "bilinear",
  "smoothing": "none",
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  "elevation_crs": "EPSG:27700",
  "elevation_resolution_m": 1.0,
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  "calculated_at": "2026-08-12T09:07:21+00:00",
  "road_source": "OpenStreetMap (local PBF extract)",
  "road_attribution": "\u00a9 OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL",
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  "osm_snapshot": "2026-08-10T20:21:40Z",
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  "elevation_capture_dates": [
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  "notes": "Coarse pass: max 15.1% over 200 m (Terrain 50), gain 24.1 m over 1540 m way. EXTENDED by graph walk: +2 segment(s) at base, +2 at top (stop: base=no_descending_continuation, top=no_ascending_continuation; min_avg=2.0%). Review before adopting. ADOPTED (notable slice 2026-08-11): qualified-steep. AUTO-NAMED from gazetteer (hypothesis, unreviewed): was 'Discovered lane (51.8611, -3.8938)'.",
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